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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194696269" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194696269">(Apr 20 2020 at 16:00)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1977">@T-lang</span> -- design meeting now, see the <a href="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Rust-2021-Edition-Planning--AycUW1SvPZc7UqHW8bJnuoGYAg-MpuBJRy026HbUUWmFMtai" title="https://paper.dropbox.com/doc/Rust-2021-Edition-Planning--AycUW1SvPZc7UqHW8bJnuoGYAg-MpuBJRy026HbUUWmFMtai">associated dropbox paper doc</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194830005" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194830005">(Apr 21 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1977">@T-lang</span> -- so I thought that was a really useful meeting -- sufficiently useful that I'm wondering if we should try to continue next week, instead of the planned meeting? (which was about type aliases). The planned meeting might indeed be something we discuss in broad strokes.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194830067" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194830067">(Apr 21 2020 at 16:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd also be curious to go back over the notes today -- or perhaps someone else wants to -- and try to summarize some of the key things we identified thus far.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194830180" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194830180">(Apr 21 2020 at 16:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>Interestingly, after we talked about the idea of moving the edition lints to warning, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116011">@Steve Klabnik</span> independently mentioned the idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832342" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832342">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:03)</a>:</h4>
<p>By the way, huge thanks to <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="220273">@Jane Lusby</span> (<a href="https://twitter.com/yaahc_" title="https://twitter.com/yaahc_">https://twitter.com/yaahc_</a>) for the summary thread of that meeting. I wish all our meetings had summaries like that. :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832703" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832703">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>My pleasure <span aria-label="blush" class="emoji emoji-1f60a" role="img" title="blush">:blush:</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832743">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm glad to see that our videos help people.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832753" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832753">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thread in question <a href="https://twitter.com/yaahc_/status/1252383848828030982?s=19" title="https://twitter.com/yaahc_/status/1252383848828030982?s=19">https://twitter.com/yaahc_/status/1252383848828030982?s=19</a></p>
<div class="inline-preview-twitter"><div class="twitter-tweet"><a href="https://twitter.com/yaahc_/status/1252383848828030982?s=19"><img class="twitter-avatar" src="https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1180899084128776193/UiMI1Jns_normal.jpg"></a><p>I watched the 2021 edition design meeting today and thought I might do a "short" summary of the points I found interesting

Feel free to ask for elaboration on any of the sections below, I'm trying to keep it brief (and failing a little <span aria-label="grimacing" class="emoji emoji-1f62c" role="img" title="grimacing">:grimacing:</span>)

So yea, THREAD <span aria-label="point down" class="emoji emoji-1f447" role="img" title="point down">:point_down:</span></p><span>- Yaah 🦀 ☕ (@yaahc_)</span></div></div>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832767" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832767">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>It's very informal</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832817">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>I wouldn't mind doing similar things in the future</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194832961" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194832961">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>You certainly don't have to commit to doing so, but I would enjoy future such threads. Both because they show how things come across, and because they help convey understanding to a much broader set of people than those who watch the whole videos.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194837147" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194837147">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh wait</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194837150" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194837150">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>I hadn't seen that thread</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194837241" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194837241">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="220273">@Jane Lusby</span> can that maybe be converted to a kind of PR to the <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/tree/master/design-meeting-minutes" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/tree/master/design-meeting-minutes">design-meeting-minutes</a> directory of the lang-team repository, by any chance?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194837255" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194837255">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I was debating about doing that :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194838141" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194838141">(Apr 21 2020 at 17:48)</a>:</h4>
<p>Sure</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194842833" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194842833">(Apr 21 2020 at 18:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>the existing style seems to be much closer to a transcript than my thread</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194842910" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194842910">(Apr 21 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh actually they're all different</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194842950" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194842950">(Apr 21 2020 at 18:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>yolo, gonna basically just post what I wrote for the twitter thread and we can tweek it in the PR based on comments</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194843891" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Jane Lusby <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194843891">(Apr 21 2020 at 18:33)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/pull/13" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/pull/13">https://github.com/rust-lang/lang-team/pull/13</a></p>



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<p>It might be good to elevate <code>indirect_structural_match</code> (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62411" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62411">#62411</a>) to an error-by-default lint in edition 2021. I think we can get  some version of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67343" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67343">#67343</a> into acceptable shape in time.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194882102" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194882102">(Apr 22 2020 at 02:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>You probably want to be discussing bigger changes  at this early stage though, and this is not one.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194884501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194884501">(Apr 22 2020 at 03:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>That seems reasonable though. Please feel free to tag it for consideration for the edition.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194886761" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194886761">(Apr 22 2020 at 04:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's tagged on GH at least</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194886826" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194886826">(Apr 22 2020 at 04:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Oh, I didn't see that. The mobile version of GitHub didn't show that.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194886840" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194886840">(Apr 22 2020 at 04:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>*now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194886843" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194886843">(Apr 22 2020 at 04:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Ah.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194886848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194886848">(Apr 22 2020 at 04:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>Thanks!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194886849" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Dylan MacKenzie (ecstatic-morse) <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194886849">(Apr 22 2020 at 04:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>My bad.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/194930712" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#194930712">(Apr 22 2020 at 13:34)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="118594">ecstatic-morse</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning/near/194881975" title="#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning/near/194881975">said</a>:</p>
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<p>It might be good to elevate <code>indirect_structural_match</code> (<a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62411" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/62411">#62411</a>) to an error-by-default lint in edition 2021. I think we can get  some version of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67343" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67343">#67343</a> into acceptable shape in time.</p>
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<p>we probably don't want to discuss in <em>too much</em> detail, but I think getting a handle on these sorts of "small changes" is a good idea</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195000663" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195000663">(Apr 22 2020 at 22:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>So we didn't get to it -- I thiink we should repurpose the upcoming meeting to continue our edition discussions -- <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="239881">@Josh Triplett</span> do you agree? want to update the invitation and maybe send an e-mail?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195000753" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195000753">(Apr 22 2020 at 22:50)</a>:</h4>
<p>Tomorrow's meeting, or next week's design meeting (replacing type aliases)?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195000925" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195000925">(Apr 22 2020 at 22:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>If folks are prepared for Monday's meeting I would prefer to keep that one, to avoid churn, but if that meeting wouldn't end up happening anyway because people need more time, then by all means let's repurpose it.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195001408" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195001408">(Apr 22 2020 at 22:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant the Monday meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195001431" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195001431">(Apr 22 2020 at 22:59)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know if anyone did any prep or not, it was me and <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119009">@eddyb</span> who would potentially have done it, I haven't had any time though.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195002161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195002161">(Apr 22 2020 at 23:07)</a>:</h4>
<p>Then I think it's yours and @eddyb's call, if you'd like more prep time or if you feel like you could drive that discussion on Monday.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195002208" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195002208">(Apr 22 2020 at 23:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can update the invites easily enough.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195381012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195381012">(Apr 27 2020 at 07:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>meeting, what meeting?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195381037" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> eddyb <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195381037">(Apr 27 2020 at 07:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>also what about me?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195428601" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195428601">(Apr 27 2020 at 14:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>Today there is a meeting and the <em>scheduled</em> topic was discussing type aliases</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195429199" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195429199">(Apr 27 2020 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>But I was proposing that we might use the opportunity to do more top-down planning</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/195429210" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#195429210">(Apr 27 2020 at 14:56)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to do a bit of review now to prepare in any case</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/197940570" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yoshua Wuyts <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#197940570">(May 18 2020 at 14:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>Not sure what the best place to bring this up is: but <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="133169">@matklad</span> wrote a section on lang changes they'd like to see over an edition boundary to improve IDE performance: <a href="https://rust-analyzer.github.io/blog/2020/05/18/next-few-years.html#language-design-for-locality">https://rust-analyzer.github.io/blog/2020/05/18/next-few-years.html#language-design-for-locality</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/197940662" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Yoshua Wuyts <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#197940662">(May 18 2020 at 14:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>This seems like it could be relevant to edition planning (:</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design%20meeting%3A%20Edition%20and%20planning/near/197963830" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Josh Triplett <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/213817-t-lang/topic/Design.20meeting.3A.20Edition.20and.20planning.html#197963830">(May 18 2020 at 16:54)</a>:</h4>
<p>All of those changes seem reasonable to me, and I'd love to see them. That said, we would need to know how widely they're used.</p>



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